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US Brand Name: Edronax
Other Brand Names:
Generic Name:
reboxetine mesilateOther Forms:
Class:
Antidepressant, specifically
NRI.
Read up on these sections if you
haven't done so already, because they cover a lot of information about multiple
medications that I'm not going to repeat on many pages. I'm just autistic
that way about not repeating myself.
FDA Approved Use: Depression
Off-Label Uses: Panic/Anxiety, Bipolar Depression, ADD/ADHD, Eating Disorders
| Pros: Far less likely to trigger mania in the bipolar or seizures in the epileptic.
Either is still possible, it's just that the odds are higher (i.e. the events are less
likely). NRIs typically have a low side effect profile for most people and are either
ineffectual or are the greatest thing ever for someone.
Cons: Not available in the US, so I'm just guessing about what's approved by the local FDA-equivalent in Forn Parts, and what's off-label usage. The high potency/small dosage make it difficult to fine tune.
Typical Side Effects: The usual for NRIs - headache, dry mouth, urinary hesitance, constipation, early awakening. The headache tends to go away and only reappears with a dosage increase for most people. The urinary hesitance (think the Beavis and Butt-Head episode where they forgot how to "go"), dry mouth, constipation and early awakening strike at random throughout the time you take it. For tips on how to cope with these side effects, please see our
side effects page.
Not So Common Side Effects: Increased heart rate or heart palpitations, getting
really sweaty. Guys report temporary and permanent sexual side effects
with
Strattera (atomoxetine),
ranging from painful ejaculation to erectile dysfunction, so the same may follow
for Edronax (reboxetine mesilate).
Freaky Rare Side Effects: Damned if I know, the PI sheets
in the UK and Australia are just pitiful! Only the kiwis have a half-decent one. The only
moderately freaky and quite rare one I've found is impotence at the higher dosage. That's
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Interesting Stuff Your Doctor Probably Won't Tell You: I haven't bothered looking yet. I'm sure there's plenty out there.
Dosage: Initial dose is 4mg twice a day. After three weeks it may be increased to 5mg twice a day. From one e-mail and reading the experiences of a couple people with unipolar and bipolar depression the optimal dosage is in the range of 8-12mg a day.
Days to Reach a Steady State: Five days. When you're fully saturated with the medication and less prone to peaks and valleys of effects. You still might have peaks of effect after taking many meds, but with a lot of the meds you'll have fewer valleys after this point. In theory anyway.
How Long it Takes to Work: About two weeks. If my experience with Strattera (atomoxetine) is any gauge, you could start feeling something within three days. Others have reported Strattera (atomoxetine) kicking in within 3-4 days as well. The few reports I've had from people taking Reboxetine give a similar timeline. A week is common, three to four days is not surprising.
Half-Life & Average Time to Clear Out of Your System: Reboxetine's a
half-life is 13 hours.
You should step down your dosage by 2mg a day every three days. Fortunately NRI
discontinuation isn't as hairy as SSRI discontinuation.
How It Works In Your Brain: Like all NRIs Edronax (reboxetine mesilate) doesn't make you produce more norepinephrine, rather it makes your neurons soak for a longer period of time in the norepinephrine you already produce. In a comparison with Effexor (venlafaxine) and Norpramin (desipramine), Edronax (reboxetine mesilate) was found to have the most potent effect on norepinephrine. It was vastly more influential on that neurotransmitter than Effexor (venlafaxine). |
| Comments: I honestly don't know squat about this med, but I list it here because
it's helped a lot of people, including some for whom
Strattera (atomoxetine HCl) was almost but not quite
the answer. Also, since all reuptake inhibitors are subject to poop-out, you never know if
you're going to have to switch between Strattera (atomoxetine HCl) and Edronax
(reboxetine mesilate), so it's best to
have options! Otherwise it's just back to the TCAs.
And a lot of those still mess with serotonin. Like all NRIs if you take too much you might be subject to norepinephrine depletion or vulnerable to the adverse effects of MAO. Read up about it on the page about NRIs.
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Manufacturer: Pfizer
Sample US Cost:
Not available in the US. Search it out at a UK, Australian or New Zealand pharmacy. Anna pointed me to Victoria Pharmacy in Zurich, Switzerland.As of 11/03/2003. Full retail for the uninsured. Go ahead and gloat, citizens of civilized countries and all of you with full medical coverage.
Sample Canadian Cost: The Canadian pharmacies I've looked at won't sell it to us, even though they can take it.
As of 11/03/2003. In US dollars, for re-importation to the US. Does not include shipping charges or currency conversion charges you might incur on your credit card. Currency fluctuations will alter the price on a daily basis.
Remedy Find Rating for Depression
Check for Drug-Drug Interactions
Canadian Monograph from Internet Mental Health
Please see the section on
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