approved indications and clinically-significant off-label uses, as well as experimental and failed applications
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I Forgot Why I Cake Topamax
Psychopharmacological Need for Approval
Drugs are officially approved to be used for certain things, and they may be approved for one thing in one country but something else entirely in another.1
Meds are often prescribed for conditions (e.g. Topamax for bipolar disorder), or people (e.g. adolescents being prescribed any SSRI or SNRI except Prozac or Lexapro) they aren’t approved to treat. This is known as off-label prescribing. Some off-label prescribing is so common that lots of people think the medication is a first-line treatment for the condition it’s prescribed to treat (e.g. Trileptal for bipolar disorder). If a drug company’s sales force (a.k.a. pharm reps) is too aggressive in pushing a med for off-label applications where it doesn’t work as well as people think, the FDA will now come down hard on them (e.g. Novartis getting heavily fined for promoting Trileptal as a treatment for bipolar disorder).
Off-label prescribing is not necessarily bad. Drugs that almost, or would almost, pass a clinical trial for some indication still work for a lot of people. As long as the reason for not clearing the hurdles of phase III clinical trials wasn’t the death of too many participants, or some other intolerable side effect.
Cymbalta is US FDA-Approved to Treat:
- Major Depressive Disorder (MDD) - approved August 2004
- Diabetic Peripheral Neuropathic Pain - approved November 2004
- Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD) - approved February 2007
- Fibromyalgia - approved June 2008
- Chronic Musculoskeletal Pain - approved November 2010
Cymbalta (duloxetine) is Approved Elsewhere for:
Clinically Significant or Otherwise Common Off-Label Uses of Cymbalta (duloxetine)
- Stress urinary incontinence in women (It’s officially approved in Europe for this problem)
- for men as well.
- Smoking cessation.
Just because a medication is approved or commonly prescribed for a particular condition doesn’t necessarily mean you should be taking it for that condition. There could be a drug that might be better to try first, or at least talk to your doctor about trying first, such as Topamax instead of Depakote as a daily med to prevent migraines (and Topamax has its own reasons why you should and should not take it). Or the condition you have isn’t bad enough to warrant medication at all. E.g. any antidepressant if you’re not so depressed that you can function at relatively the same level as you do when you’re not depressed.
When/Why You Should Take Cymbalta (duloxetine)
- Effexor and/or Pristiq sort of worked for you.
- You failed two (or more) SSRIs, and Wellbutrin didn’t work, your doctor doesn’t want to try you on it yet, or you and your doctor know Wellbutrin is a Bad Idea.
When/Why You Should NOT Take Cymbalta (duloxetine)
- Effexor and/or Pristiq didn’t do crap for you.
- Especially if the discontinuation syndrome was an absolute nightmare.
When all else fails and you’ve run out of other options, Cymbalta may be your last best chance at treating an obscure or treatment-resistant condition.
Less Common/Experimental Off-Label Uses of Cymbalta
Medicine Is The Best Medicine
Vaccines Cause Immunity
Mental Illness is NOT Contagious
Medicated For Your Protection
Be careful! Some off-label uses have been total fails, and otherwise safe meds can be downright dangerous when used for some things.
You probably want to avoid using Cymbalta for the following:
Failed Off-Label Uses
Potentially Dangerous Off-Label Uses
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1 Before Cymbalta (duloxetine) was approved as an antidepressant in the US it was already approved in the EU, but only for stress urinary incontinence and sold under the trade name Yentreve. Duloxetine is now sold in the EU as an antidepressant under the trade name Cymbalta.
A better known, if slightly different example is bupropion. According to the 2007 edition of Mosby's Drug Consult, and my highly-skilled Google-fu, in the US, Canada and Singapore you can get both Wellbutrin (bupropion) as an antidepressant or as Zyban (bupropion) to stop smoking. In Korea, Thailand and most of South America (but not Brazil) you can get bupropion (under various trade names) only as an antidepressant. In Brazil, the EU & UK, Israel, India, Australia and New Zealand it's only available as Zyban to help you stop smoking.
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1 While there are plenty of books to help you with hypochondria, for some reason there’s not much in the way of websites. Then again, staying off of the Internet is a large part of curing/managing the disorder.
2 Remember kids, Microsloth operating systems are like TOS Star Trek movies with in that every other one sucks way, way more. With TOS Star Trek movies you don’t want to bother watching the odd-numbered ones. With Microsloth OS you don’t want to buy and install the even-numbered ones. Anyone who remembers ME and Vista knows what I mean.
3 Have I mentioned how open source operating systems for commercial applications is one of the dumbest ideas in the history of dumb ideas?* I don’t even need my big-ass rant any more. Heartbleed has made my case for me. And that’s just the one that got all the media attention. The very nature of an open source operating system makes security as much of an illusion of anonymity. Before you flip out too much: the domain Crazymeds is hosted on uses a version of SSL that is not affected by the Heartbleed bug. That’s one of the many reasons why I pay a lot of money and keep this site on Lunarpages.
* Yes, I know I’m using open source browsers. I also test the site using the now-defunct IE and Safari browsers. Their popularity - and superiority - killed IE and Safari, so that’s why I rely on the open source browsers. It’s like brand vs. generic meds. Sometimes the generic is better than the brand.