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Migraines And Botox


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#1 firedancer

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Posted 07 December 2008 - 04:55 PM

anyone tried this? i have my first appt on tuesday morning.
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#2 dymphna

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 09:53 AM

No, but I sure as hell wanted to!

And it's really wild that you bring it up, because I was just sitting in a dentist's office reading (ahem) People magazine about all these "stars" who use it for cosmetic purposes, and I was thinking to myself "but what about the medical uses?"

I is dork.


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Posted 08 December 2008 - 11:32 AM

I read this article (consumer, not research) by this doctor who was claiming that he could cure depression by using botox. He was citing some research about people who smile more having less depression, and saying that botox made it more likely that one would smile, not frown.

I really doubt that it's legitimate, but I thought it was really funny. And hey if it worked, maybe insurance would start paying for it...

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 11:59 AM

Dear Insurance Company,
I have been suffering from a depression as of late which is confirmed in my doctor's attached diagnosis. I feel the need to explain my circumstance so you will fully understand that this is a necessary procedure for my mental health. It's not that my smile lines have deepened or that I have starting wrinkles on my upper lip. Neither is it due to my growing crows feet or the deep line between my eyebrows. These are my life history. My sadness of late is due to my divorce of five years ago and current inability to attract men 20 years old and to be flirted with at the grocery store. There is more, but these are the most heart wrenching. With the recent combining of mental health and cosmetology, I'm sure you will give due credit to my plastic surgeon's diagnosis of unhappiness disorder as well as his recommended treatment for this condition - botox all over my face.

I look forward to your expedited approval.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 12:41 PM

There is some interesting research about Botox, Firedancer. You may find that it has effects far beyond helping with your migraine.

Treatment of depression with botulinum toxin A: a case series

Botulinum toxin improves the quality of life and reduces the intensification of depressive symptoms in patients with blepharospasm

So... hmm. Were they less depressed because their looks improved, or did looks become irrelevant as mood improved? It would be interesting to read the full studies. I mean, damn! A shot that is good for up to 3 months for depression? Think of how many people that would help!

In the migraine department:

First results of clinical studies on botulinum toxin A in migraine and headache
This one is good news for you.

Humanistic, utilization, and cost outcomes associated with the use of botulinum toxin for treatment of refractory migraine headaches in a managed care organization
This is a long-ass abstract, but I think it gives what is probably a realistic assessment.


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Posted 08 December 2008 - 12:56 PM

I read this article (consumer, not research) by this doctor who was claiming that he could cure depression by using botox. He was citing some research about people who smile more having less depression, and saying that botox made it more likely that one would smile, not frown.

I really doubt that it's legitimate, but I thought it was really funny. And hey if it worked, maybe insurance would start paying for it...

Anna

I read that too. The "study" was so flawed. But I did fantasize about getting some injections with the hope that they might do something. Okay, I didn't only fantisize; I contacted some aestheticians about prices.

Then I realized that I don't really frown anyway and have no frown lines to speak of. I have horizontal lines across my forhead that I don't like, but they're expression lines from moving my eyebrows all over place -- just something I do when I'm feeling animated. But if insurance covered it, I'd get injections every four months.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:43 PM

I have a friend who gets them (the shots, not the migraines, unfortunately) every 3 months. She says that it hasn't resulted in the headaches going away altogether, but they are less likely to spread from the initial migrane symptoms (sensitivity to light, nausea, etc.) to the full headache that includes muscle spasms. Hope you get some relief.

Edited by Nutter 6, 08 December 2008 - 01:44 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 08:24 AM

I had a cow-orker back in my telecom tech. days that was getting botox treatments to help w/spasticity from MS. It helped him when a lot of other things had failed. So I could see botox being of use if administered correctly. Certainly relieving pain would brighten ones day I imagine.
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 03:04 PM

anyone tried this? i have my first appt on tuesday morning.


So how was it? Please keep us posted as to how it works.
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 05:31 PM

yah oh yeah, try passing the botox for depression by a doctor, nevermind trying to get the botox for migraines(having equal unlikability towards actually getting the referral.)

dx: schizotypal personality disorder, dystonic neck and back pain, GERD. a bit of TD, akathisia, dysmorphic thoughts, affect is questionable

seroquel and inderal 60mg made me fatigued/ depressed. may hafta try lopressor or bisoprolol

inderal interacts with ssris and anti-psychs.

success HCTZ not only lowers my blood pressure and pulse more effectively. but it also has helped with the headaches ive been having. i should see a doctor about this.

[color="#0000FF"]rx: klonopin .5-1 prn, omega 3 fish oil, vitamin D3 iu, albuterol sulfate inhaler, magnesium hydroxide(for the constipationg)

in flux: seroquel 50mg
up and coming: nuvigil

looking into injectables.


artane 2 mg PRN(rare), trazodone 50mg PRN, lyrica PRN?



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