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#1 weatherphobia

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Posted 08 April 2008 - 06:03 PM

I need to know a good substitute for SEROQUEL. I was/am taking 800mg per night of SEROQUEL.

I need it for sleep and the anti psychotic help it gives.

So if someone could name a substitute I might be able to tell my insurance company.
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Posted 08 April 2008 - 06:29 PM

I thought we had determined via your past posts that Seroquel doesn't even help you and you have intolerable side effects from it besides. (May I remind you of your post titled "The Seroquel is killing me now"?) Do you really need or want a substitute?

You are already taking another antipsychotic, Abilify, which should have you covered as far as psychotic symptoms are concerned. Again, going by your past posts, Abilify prevented psychotic symptoms where Seroquel failed to do so, anyway.

As for sleep, there are plenty of things that you could take for sleep that don't have the weight gain or other problems you've had with Seroquel, and which your insurance won't balk at either. Maybe trazodone?
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 10:45 AM

I need to know a good substitute for SEROQUEL. I was/am taking 800mg per night of SEROQUEL.

I need it for sleep and the anti psychotic help it gives.

So if someone could name a substitute I might be able to tell my insurance company.
thanks


Those underlined words don't lead to any links.

Oh, wait, you were trying to get your point across by emphasizing particular words. Try using italics instead. It's less confusing.

In any event, the closest substitute in terms of what Seroquel does is a cocktail of haloperidol, cyproheptadine and dicyclomine.

Of course, as dicyclomine and cyprothptadine aren't psychiatric medications it would be a stretch to get a shrink to prescribe them. So you'd be stuck with just the haloperidol. Benadryl does some of what Seroquel and dicyclomine do, just not as well, but you can discuss with your doctor about adding that to haloperidol to help with sleep. No prescription or insurance hassles required.

That is if this is purely an insurance issue and one has to compound Seroquel from a cheaper standard antipsychotic and other cheap generic medications and/or over-the-counter stuff. It's the sort of thing people have to do at poor people clinics.
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 03:39 PM

I thought we had determined via your past posts that Seroquel doesn't even help you and you have intolerable side effects from it besides. (May I remind you of your post titled "The Seroquel is killing me now"?) Do you really need or want a substitute?

You are already taking another antipsychotic, Abilify, which should have you covered as far as psychotic symptoms are concerned. Again, going by your past posts, Abilify prevented psychotic symptoms where Seroquel failed to do so, anyway.

As for sleep, there are plenty of things that you could take for sleep that don't have the weight gain or other problems you've had with Seroquel, and which your insurance won't balk at either. Maybe trazodone?


Yes the seroquel has caused an obscene amount of weight gain, this is true. I recall posting about this but now I have no choice. The insurance company is determined to not pay for both Abilify and Seroquel. Since Seroquel has given more more mental health benefits I decided to stick with it, I know it seems crazy but what else can I do?

I need the Seroquel for both mania and psychotic features I suffer sometimes plus the sleeping issue.

Trazadone is not an option, I tried that years ago and it caused 24x7 erections 'priapism' which my reg-doc said was dangerous and so I stopped taking it.

If my posts sound confusing it is because I am very confused right now. I have been a test pig for nearly 50 medications in the last 20 years. I sometimes cannot remember how long or when I took a particular medication.

My apologies
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 03:41 PM

I need to know a good substitute for SEROQUEL. I was/am taking 800mg per night of SEROQUEL.

I need it for sleep and the anti psychotic help it gives.

So if someone could name a substitute I might be able to tell my insurance company.
thanks


Those underlined words don't lead to any links.

Oh, wait, you were trying to get your point across by emphasizing particular words. Try using italics instead. It's less confusing.

In any event, the closest substitute in terms of what Seroquel does is a cocktail of haloperidol, cyproheptadine and dicyclomine.

Of course, as dicyclomine and cyprothptadine aren't psychiatric medications it would be a stretch to get a shrink to prescribe them. So you'd be stuck with just the haloperidol. Benadryl does some of what Seroquel and dicyclomine do, just not as well, but you can discuss with your doctor about adding that to haloperidol to help with sleep. dangerous phising site or insurance hassles required.

That is if this is purely an insurance issue and one has to compound Seroquel from a cheaper standard antipsychotic and other cheap generic medications and/or over-the-counter stuff. It's the sort of thing people have to do at poor people clinics.


I have an old bottle, 9 months ago, of Haldol prescribed when I was hearing loud voices and noises. I guess if the insurance route doesn't pan out I'll be forced to take some Haldol from time to time.

I really do appreciate everyone's help. I may seem frazzled but I do appreciate everyone's help on this board.
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