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#1 In_Remission_Abree

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 04:20 PM

~I had ECT about 8 years ago for med resistant depression and have been completely screwed up since. It didn't work a bit and zapped ever ounce of creativity I had right out of me. Along with the creativity loss, I have NO motivation or energy to do even the simplest of everyday things and no interest at all in doing any of the things I used to love doing. I had a pretty bad driking problem for a long time because it was the only way I could enjoy ANYTHING, even music. So, since the ECT I've had to be on stimulants just to feel "normal".
~I suspected that something wasn't right with me in the dopamine area and finally did some digging. Yep, I have every single symptom of a dope deficiency....I was a little surprised to see that even the creativity loss was part of it. The ECT must have fried a receptor or something? I don't know, but I am far beyond pissed about having to pop Adderal like fucking candy just to feel human and I want to know why.

~Is there ANYONE who has experienced this or even heard of it happening?~





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#2 Deep Sea Philosopher

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 06:12 PM

Abree,

Do you have cookie cutter Major Depression or does it have more to do with the C-PTSD? There is a technical difference, but I am not sure if it is enough to possibly cause the ECT to be an epic fail.

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 06:46 PM

~ It's really tough to distinguish...it's kinda like the chicken or egg thing. It's More than likely from the C-PTSD but that certainly hasn't made the Depression any less severe, that's for sure.~

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 06:06 PM

I was not meaning to imply that it is less severe. What seperates the two is the underlying etiology which could theoretically cause treatments that are standard for MDD, like ECT, to be less effective for C-PTSD. Both Disorders can cause similar symptoms, but have different origins, thus, different treatments.


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Posted 12 April 2011 - 08:05 AM

I was not meaning to imply that it is less severe. What seperates the two is the underlying etiology which could theoretically cause treatments that are standard for MDD, like ECT, to be less effective for C-PTSD. Both Disorders can cause similar symptoms, but have different origins, thus, different treatments.


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~Oh no, I know that's not what you were implying. I'm sorry it came across that way.

~I'm not so hung up about the fact that the ECT didn't work, it's what it did do to me that I'm devestated about and I would like to understand why it happened.
~On the subject of the C-PTSD, are you aware of any meds that can work well for it? Lithium has done wonders for me in alot of ways but I'm still having serious issues with the depression and my AD options are dwindling.~

~Thanx,
~~Abree~~


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Posted 16 April 2011 - 01:55 PM

I had ECT a few years back and, whilst it worked a treat, it's played merry hell with my memory. I'm serious. It's a real problem. I'm just hoping it fixes itself soon!



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Posted 17 April 2011 - 06:24 PM


I was not meaning to imply that it is less severe. What seperates the two is the underlying etiology which could theoretically cause treatments that are standard for MDD, like ECT, to be less effective for C-PTSD. Both Disorders can cause similar symptoms, but have different origins, thus, different treatments.


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~Oh no, I know that's not what you were implying. I'm sorry it came across that way.

~I'm not so hung up about the fact that the ECT didn't work, it's what it did do to me that I'm devestated about and I would like to understand why it happened.
~On the subject of the C-PTSD, are you aware of any meds that can work well for it? Lithium has done wonders for me in alot of ways but I'm still having serious issues with the depression and my AD options are dwindling.~

~Thanx,
~~Abree~~


There is not a lot of literature concerning C-PTSD.. much less psychotropic treatments for what they consider "primarily" psychological. I know that most people do not like hearing the "B-word".. but individuals with C-PTSD and BPD usually respond to the same type of treatments.. a lot of therapy and prn meds (AAP's and BZD's). Unfortunately, the fact that you have other interesting characteristics in addition to C-PTSD complicates things.

Have you ever tried Lamictal?

It can work wonders for some people and we have some folks on this forum that are on a Lithium/Lamictal cocktail. Lamictal has been shown to adequately address symptoms that are present in both C-PTSD and Depression.

There are a couple of AAP's.. Abilify, Geodon, and Seroquel XR.. that might be of some use.

Geodon is a wacky AAP/AD hybrid that loves to play with Norepinephrine, somewhat like Strattera. A low-dose of Abilify could provide the boost that you get from the Addys. Seroquel XR helps a lot with the lows of all types of Mood Disorders.


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