[therapeuticbrigg84]

whats the most effective medicaiton regimen for schizotypal disoder. i took lexapro seroquel and gabapentin for awhile and it turns out that after a year of taking it you can have sleep apnea syndrome!

so now that im now longer taking most of that crap or that combination i feel much better. and was thinking of just sticking with mostly klonopin and i ahem something euphoric like to bring my concentration back up cause this sleep apnea syndrome is kicking my ass.

[mickmax]

therapeuticbrigg84, on Fri 26 March 2010 23:55:35 GMT +0000, said:

whats the most effective medicaiton regimen for schizotypal disoder. i took lexapro seroquel and gabapentin for awhile and it turns out that after a year of taking it you can have sleep apnea syndrome!

so now that im now longer taking most of that crap or that combination i feel much better. and was thinking of just sticking with mostly klonopin and i ahem something euphoric like to bring my concentration back up cause this sleep apnea syndrome is kicking my ass.

How can you have sleep apnea from that?

[therapeuticbrigg84]

http://www.ehealthme.com/drug_interactions...lexapro-3168267

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[therapeuticbrigg84]

ok thanks, i just had a feeling it might be sleep apnea or it could just be difficulty cocentrating due to gabapentin which im going to discontinue cause i finally realized its crappy, and was just looking for a link between all those meds. cause i do have heartburn as well. and it could just be heartburn and indigestion and thats causing it, the indigestion which is really screwing with my chemistry.

This post has been edited by therapeuticbrigg84: 27 March 2010 - 11:14 AM

[dymphna]

therapeuticbrigg84, on Sat 27 March 2010 14:08:40 GMT +0000, said:

ok thanks, i just had a feeling it might be sleep apnea or it could just be difficulty cocentrating due to gabapentin which im going to discontinue cause i finally realized its crappy, and was just looking for a link between all those meds. cause i do have heartburn as well. and it could just be heartburn and indigestion and thats causing it, the indigestion which is really screwing with my chemistry.

wait... you didn't have this diagnosed by a sleep study? You just... diagnosed it?

Before you go discontinuing this or that or deciding something else is screwing with your chemistry, it might be a good idea to call up your primary care doc and get a basic once over.


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[mickmax]

I'm a sleep tech and have never heard of those meds causing sleep apnea. Opiods and methodone like substances can induce central sleep apnea but that's about it. Unless, there is something i haven't heard or read yet. Sleep apnea is sleep apnea.

[Deep Sea Philosopher]

therapeuticbrigg84, on Sat 27 March 2010 0:55:35 GMT +0000, said:

whats the most effective medicaiton regimen for schizotypal disoder

At the risk of being banned, I'm just going to say a hell of a lot more than 25mg of Slurroquel plus other meds to augment the AP/AAP for certain key symptoms.

How did you get diagnosed as Schizotypal? Just curious, not doubting it or anything.

[therapeuticbrigg84]

i got diagnosed a while back by my therapist. and also schizotypal personality disorder or any personality disorder of that type is treated with low dose atypicals. schizophrenia is given alot more and a higher amount of meds than that.

[Deep Sea Philosopher]

therapeuticbrigg84, on Mon 26 April 2010 20:30:39 GMT +0000, said:

i got diagnosed a while back by my therapist. and also schizotypal personality disorder or any personality disorder of that type is treated with low dose atypicals. schizophrenia is given alot more and a higher amount of meds than that.

I know that, I'm Schizoaffective premorbid Schizotypal.

25mg of Slurroquel is not a low dose AAP. At that dosage it mainly shows H1 Antagonism properties and is closer to being a sedative hypnotic than an AAP, according to Stahl's Essential Psychopharmacology Prescribers Guide.

[therapeuticbrigg84]

ahh ic, ive just had problems with side effects, like TD and dystonia-like neck spasms at higher doses. and i actually take 50 mg seroquel now, ive been taking it for the last 2 weeks, i just didnt update my sig.

I of course tried to remedy that with muscle relaxers like zanaflex, and more recent success with klonopin. but all the anti-cholinergic drugs just seemed to make it worse, artane being the only specific helper. cogentin and benadryl were terrible. valium i have yet to get a script for, that's supposed to be the number one treatment for any kind of dystonia, but exercise may be better. and then obviously had my experience with gabapentin and lyrica(similar to the AED lamictal.) but only it made me dumb and retarded and couldnt handle that so im off it.

you should see when i get off of even 25 mg of seroquel, things are so much better, no more dystonia, more energy, everything! but then of course the nightmares start and the disease somehow shows, i used to think that not sleeping was bad, and i held so much value in sleep. now, I'm seeing that i was a little obsessed with it.

so now, im considering other meds or other AP's out there. and even injectables, or more specifically the long acting ones. and im wondering if that would even make a difference in side effects.

i also took propecia before all my problems started happening which couldnt have helped, as it is also used to treat BPH(benign prostatic hypertropy) or enlarging of prostrate, that makes you urinate frequently. and then i started taking benadryl at night to sleep when the sleeping troubles started happening, and supposedly benadryl is not good for prostatic hypertrophy as it interacts somehow i read in a Pharmacology book.

This post has been edited by therapeuticbrigg84: 26 April 2010 - 07:13 PM

[Deep Sea Philosopher]

therapeuticbrigg84, on Mon 26 April 2010 22:01:34 GMT +0000, said:

ahh ic, ive just had problems with side effects, like TD and dystonia-like spasms at higher doses. and i actually take 50 mg seroquel now, ive been taking it for the last 2 weeks, i just didnt update my sig.

Dystonia's a bitch, I have ST.. the one involving the neck. They thought I was having seizures for two years. One thing that I learned though was that Dystonia and Dyskinesea are common in Schizophrenia Spectrum Disorders even before administration of AP/AAP's. It's caused by Dopamine imbalances in the Basal Ganglia. AP/AAP's can make it worse (even though back in the day they were prescribed to TREAT it), but benzo's, AC's, and Botox can improve symptoms. Risk vs. Reward. Here are some links describing it in action before the administration of Neuroleptics.

Spontaneous Abnormal Involuntary Movements in First-Episode Schizophrenia and Schizophreniform Disorder: Baseline Rate in a Group of Patients From an Irish Catchment Area

Neurological Signs and Involuntary Movements in Schizophrenia: Intrinsic To and Informative on Systems Pathobiology

Anyways, welcome to the Schizophrenia Spectrum Disorders club!

This post has been edited by Deep Sea Philosopher: 26 April 2010 - 07:16 PM

[therapeuticbrigg84]

botox??? have u ever gotten that? if so how? how did u get it to help? my doctor won't even listen to me when i say i've got dystonia or ST. he's like no you don'ti'm like yeah i do. he thinks he can jst look at a person ad decide they dont have it. my headaches would tell you otherwise.

This post has been edited by therapeuticbrigg84: 26 April 2010 - 07:24 PM

[Deep Sea Philosopher]

therapeuticbrigg84, on Mon 26 April 2010 22:23:42 GMT +0000, said:

botox??? have u ever gotten that? if so how? how did u get it to help? my doctor won't even listen to me when i say i've got dystonia or ST. he's like no you don'ti'm like yeah i do. he thinks he can jst look at a person ad decide they dont have it. my headaches would tell you otherwise.

I wouldn't touch the most poisonous substance on Earth with a ten foot pole. My Ndoc increased my Lamictal from 200mg to 400mg when she thought I was having Seizures and that helped somewhat, but I switched back following the correct diagnosis because the higher dosages of Lamictal are less effective for mood symptoms. I'm not treating it with anything, I guess I'm used to not being able to control my shakes.. I hardly notice them anymore. I'm just glad that I don't have seizures on top of all the other shit I have to deal with.

I have Skelaxin that I take when things get really bad.. I have a permanent shoulder injury on the side that the spasms are, so I have to deal with two problems in the same general area.. thus the prn Skelaxin and daily use of Ultram/tramadol.